chris

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More COVID-19 testing—as well as antibody testing—definitely has to be done in Okinawa and Japan as a whole. Without that, I don't think the tourism stimulus, applying to domestic travel, will work because people will be fearful of the unknown prefecture to prefecture.

It's just a hunch, but I think that people are refraining from going out if they're sick, even with the state of emergency in Japan lifted. With Okinawa having so many elderly, it just doesn't add up that there aren't as many cases here as seen around the world.

Does anyone have a total count of those tested, whether in English or Japanese? I believe I found it to be about 3000 about a month ago which would make for a fairly low number of about 5% of those tested are infected. In the United States, it's about 12%; however, I don't find this number accurate because the CDC is combining all tests conducted as a final tally—meaning, somebody can be tested 4 times, test positive 3 times for COVID-19 and be counted as 4 tests in the total, with 3 as positive, severely throwing off the count.
I still don't see the importance to testing. What for? If your not sick why bother to go get tested? It just makes no sense to get tested for a virus that isn't bad like we were all led to believe. T he only way i see testing to be conducted if it was like a movie full of zombies and people beating down hospital doors to get treatment and people lying everywhere screaming bloody murder for this virus with pain. Then i could see testing to see if you have the virus or not. Testing is over rated.
 

chris

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Hey is there anyone here anymore? Seems everyone left. Well for those who are still interested i like this story.

Defense secretary says coronavirus vaccine will be available within months, but experts skeptical

Back in January I refuse to believe this virus is anything more than the Flu on steroids and I still do to this day and I said weeks before the Presidential Elections there will be a vaccine which is really a Flu shot but named Covid Vaccine or something stupid like that. And yesterday Bam the media post this article on a vaccine by Fall. Trump saves America from Covid right before elections and then gets voted for a second term as POTUS.
 

island cyclist

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I'm sure they are, so they can get a piece of the emergency bailout money to
Oh, OK.
Chris, Japan is opening up the country to the outside world soon. I think in 4 stages. Do you think its a good idea. I know the Mormon Church is now preparing to send their missionaries back overseas. No info on Japan yet.
 

chris

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Oh, OK.
Chris, Japan is opening up the country to the outside world soon. I think in 4 stages. Do you think its a good idea. I know the Mormon Church is now preparing to send their missionaries back overseas. No info on Japan yet.
What do i think on the 4 stage process? OMG don't get me started LOL. I think it's total BS! Every country is following the same playbook for a virus that isn't, And Japan is following in Americas footsteps which makes it even more stupid and the governments are acting like their countries have been closed for years. Wait and see come after the Presidential Elections on how fast the Corona virus vanishes. If Trump wants to be a second term president he will have to come out with a vaccine before election day. (See my other post about vaccine and my projections). If others become president like Joe Biden for example the slate will be cleaned and Corona will vanish along with social distancing and businesses will suddenly prosper and bloom like magic. This virus is nothing more than the flu on steroids and its all about money and making small businesses into middle class businesses and inventors of medical and virus supply's can enter the small business world. It's amazing about a month ago how many products for detecting virus's have popped up and new inventions for social distancing have popped up and these people need shops and small factories so create a fake virus, create job loses so all the businesses can step up the stock market ladder to open new small businesses and hire those who are out of work and then Bam economy running again. But for Presidents and Ministers to create this fake virus for an economy meltdown that is happening was completely wrong and they know it because it backfired in their faces.
 

island cyclist

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What do i think on the 4 stage process? OMG don't get me started LOL. I think it's total BS! Every country is following the same playbook for a virus that isn't, And Japan is following in Americas footsteps which makes it even more stupid and the governments are acting like their countries have been closed for years. Wait and see come after the Presidential Elections on how fast the Corona virus vanishes. If Trump wants to be a second term president he will have to come out with a vaccine before election day. (See my other post about vaccine and my projections). If others become president like Joe Biden for example the slate will be cleaned and Corona will vanish along with social distancing and businesses will suddenly prosper and bloom like magic. This virus is nothing more than the flu on steroids and its all about money and making small businesses into middle class businesses and inventors of medical and virus supply's can enter the small business world. It's amazing about a month ago how many products for detecting virus's have popped up and new inventions for social distancing have popped up and these people need shops and small factories so create a fake virus, create job loses so all the businesses can step up the stock market ladder to open new small businesses and hire those who are out of work and then Bam economy running again. But for Presidents and Ministers to create this fake virus for an economy meltdown that is happening was completely wrong and they know it because it backfired in their faces.

It seems like you have a clear understanding of the making of something that is invisible , yet its right smack in front of our face.
What I don't get yet is the foundation of the spread of the virus in the ships and bars and live venues. Also the death of the sumo wrestler.
 

chris

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It seems like you have a clear understanding of the making of something that is invisible , yet its right smack in front of our face.
What I don't get yet is the foundation of the spread of the virus in the ships and bars and live venues. Also the death of the sumo wrestler.
Well IC everyone dies heck its a part of normal life and Influenza kills thousand and hospitalizes millions every year worldwide. Its my opinion that the corona virus is nothing more than a flu strain that kills the same way but a bit stronger and covid has the same symptoms as the flu except for 1 or 2 symptoms i think. Maybe its 1. Anyway for our governments and health experts to call corona a separate virus all by itself is false and the spreading of it happens just like the common cold, or Flu, by touching people, people sneezing or coughing without covering their mouths, heck high fives to little kids as we all know children are disease carriers but they never get sick they pass it on to us adults but we don't care because their children. LOL. Hygiene is the most common way to spread any virus and i'm talking about those people who never wash their after using the bathroom and then see you and give you hugs and handshakes, also those who sneeze or cough in their hands wipe it on themselves and then touch you. People on ships for god sakes sharing wine and pina colada's from the same glass, ( HOWS YOUR DRINK THEIR BOB OH ITS GREAT WANNA TRY SOME TAKE A SIP) ETC. Swimming pools on board a ship, public toilets on ships and planes, saunas, massage people who don't wash their hands after each patient and oh my god the list goes on. Carpooling when you get picked up in the morning for work 4 people in a car and all seem ok and then one sneezes next week you and him have the flu. Everything we do in life no matter what we touch will always be a 50/50 shot to getting some kind of cold or flu. Like i said before according to the number which i have no idea how people can listen to them but anyway just like the Flu 98% of all positive cases in this world are mild cases from covid. Mild! Mild! with outcome of full recovery of health and return to work. Now the media and the governments are going to tell you different and scream the sky is falling and we as sheep will believe the big bad wolf. Since day 1 of this virus i havent seen anything that will change my mind that this virus isnt serious enough to destroy lives of the people like our governments have done. Since day 1 all i have seen is computer based models on what would happen, projection numbers, and computer generated data on a virus that i havent seen proof of.
 

David

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Since day 1 of this virus i havent seen anything that will change my mind that this virus isnt serious enough to destroy lives of the people like our governments have done.
This, except not since day 1.

It took me about 3-5 weeks for the data to come in to conclude that there shouldn't have been any stimulus checks and lockdowns around the world. There possibly could've only been one check passed out to all Americans of $1200, without all the earmarks and scrupulous spending, in the CARES Act which would've taken the spending down from $2.2 trillion to about $375 billion to the people and $375 to prevent a disaster, should there have been one. There was no reason to give the postal service $25 billion nor other exceedingly high and unnecessary relief sent elsewhere there was no reason to have it.

In my opinion, the CARES Act, prior to Pelosi's version, that passed, was merely a ruse to get the American people comfortable with a UBI (Universal Basic Income) and one step closer to socialism.

Now, we have to dig ourselves out of a $2.2 trillion hole that just so happened to occur so close to election day (a hail mary for the Left in my opinion as nothing has worked thus far and they said from the beginning a recession is what it'll take, while still being children). It's ammunition for the Left to use that this administration caused a recession like no other, but I believe a losing one for the Left's inexcusable actions by current state governors to still be on modified/lockdowns as well as being able to point that the Act was created by a Democrat-majority Congress, not to mention the unscrupulous spending in the bill; having the Senate or Executive Branch not sign off on it (or it vetoed) would have been a victory for Congress, the Senate and Presidency in November for the Left.

That said, the Right can just say, "We saved 2.1 million lives by passing it" (I cringe when I hear that because the 2.2 figure was based on a propitiatory model that nobody can examine and has been wrong in every single epidemic/pandemic so far, to include COVID). What can the Left argue then? "You put us in a recession though!"? Well... They just signed off on what the Left wanted, and, stripped of much more if that as if the original draft had passed, it would've been far worse.

I think that if the Right is to take over Congress and retain the Senate and Presidency in November, we can dig ourselves out and make the recovery in 4-years as we'll be focused on that and not into this probe or that probe, costing valuable floor time and not representing their constituents: They'll actually do their jobs.
 
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Added: "Less Negative Confirmations" under "Total COVID-19 Tests Conducted" below the timeline on the original post.
 

chris

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That said, the Right can just say, "We saved 2.1 million lives by passing it" (I cringe when I hear that because the 2.2 figure was based on a propitiatory model that nobody can examine and has been wrong in every single epidemic/pandemic so far, to include COVID). What can the Left argue then? "You put us in a recession though!"? Well... They just signed off on what the Left wanted, and, stripped of much more if that as if the original draft had passed, it would've been far worse.
This statement that you pointed out is by far the most 100% accurate thing i have heard as well. LOL at myself but i can't help thinking the stimulus money was thank you money for being involved in the great worldwide experiment for a virus that was controlled and maintained by computer simulations and if this had been an actual emergency then you would have been directed to your nearest fallout shelter for an indefinite lock down for a lengthy stay of about a year LOL. But i also agree there should have never been lock downs and closure of businesses and the amount of jobs lost by a government made virus from both the left and the right and other world leaders to even try something like this virus only to have it explode uncontrolled right back into their faces and make citizens pay for it with a recession that's really in my book getting out of hand.
Well at least we agree on somethings Dave and when i post my comments like i do here on other news forums boy i get my head handed to me and death threats and such and a lot of name calling LOL. It's nice to know somethings i say are agreeable.
One last thing i know you have seen all the protesting going and fires and looting for the murder of a black man and such but other states are involved to and NYC got involved as well. Now no will believe me but my opinion these riots and protests that are going on have to with a lot of angry and hatred that was boiling up inside thousands of Americans during lock downs with covid and now they finally have something they can release all that anger on. I do blame the lock downs and shutdowns due to corona for all these protests and the sad part is our governments new this would happen after reopening and lock downs got lifted.
 

island cyclist

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This, except not since day 1.

It took me about 3-5 weeks for the data to come in to conclude that there shouldn't have been any stimulus checks and lockdowns around the world. There possibly could've only been one check passed out to all Americans of $1200, without all the earmarks and scrupulous spending, in the CARES Act which would've taken the spending down from $2.2 trillion to about $375 billion to the people and $375 to prevent a disaster, should there have been one. There was no reason to give the postal service $25 billion nor other exceedingly high and unnecessary relief sent elsewhere there was no reason to have it.

In my opinion, the CARES Act, prior to Pelosi's version, that passed, was merely a ruse to get the American people comfortable with a UBI (Universal Basic Income) and one step closer to socialism.

Now, we have to dig ourselves out of a $2.2 trillion hole that just so happened to occur so close to election day (a hail mary for the Left in my opinion as nothing has worked thus far and they said from the beginning a recession is what it'll take, while still being children). It's ammunition for the Left to use that this administration caused a recession like no other, but I believe a losing one for the Left's inexcusable actions by current state governors to still be on modified/lockdowns as well as being able to point that the Act was created by a Democrat-majority Congress, not to mention the unscrupulous spending in the bill; having the Senate or Executive Branch not sign off on it (or it vetoed) would have been a victory for Congress, the Senate and Presidency in November for the Left.

That said, the Right can just say, "We saved 2.1 million lives by passing it" (I cringe when I hear that because the 2.2 figure was based on a propitiatory model that nobody can examine and has been wrong in every single epidemic/pandemic so far, to include COVID). What can the Left argue then? "You put us in a recession though!"? Well... They just signed off on what the Left wanted, and, stripped of much more if that as if the original draft had passed, it would've been far worse.

I think that if the Right is to take over Congress and retain the Senate and Presidency in November, we can dig ourselves out and make the recovery in 4-years as we'll be focused on that and not into this probe or that probe, costing valuable floor time and not representing their constituents: They'll actually do their jobs.

The Japanese govt. said 3 months ago "the world is in a mess".
 

David

Founder
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The Japanese govt. said 3 months ago "the world is in a mess".
And, it was. It still may be in some countries too. It wouldn't have been a mess had America learned what it had from Italy.

Instead, specifically New York, still shoved elderly with COVID-19 into nursing homes with those that did not have COVID-19 when the hospitals weren't inundated with COVID-19 patients. They even had the USNS Comfort there to assist, which they didn't need. That's because Governor Cuomo took it upon himself to make that policy, now deleted from the internet, that significantly had a negative impact in New York's counts by placing the sick with the healthy. You remove those numbers, along with the "death with COVID" (not "death with COVID") from New York alone and the numbers would look much more reasonable.

Other Democrat run states imposed similar actions that caused more deaths and infections, not to mention there are still some states on modified lockdowns causing, who knows what else (alcoholism, domestic violence, and other grotesque things), than was necessary.

Who are voting these people in? It's time for them to go because it's apparent that they are lacking in some serious leadership and decision-making skills.

To me, it just seems all too perfect to overreact this close to November. However, the scare tactic really only worked towards most Democrat-leaning voters, who may not show up at the polls until it's okay to go outside.
 

island cyclist

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And, it was. It still may be in some countries too. It wouldn't have been a mess had America learned what it had from Italy.

Instead, specifically New York, still shoved elderly with COVID-19 into nursing homes with those that did not have COVID-19 when the hospitals weren't inundated with COVID-19 patients. They even had the USNS Comfort there to assist, which they didn't need. That's because Governor Cuomo took it upon himself to make that policy, now deleted from the internet, that significantly had a negative impact in New York's counts by placing the sick with the healthy. You remove those numbers, along with the "death with COVID" (not "death with COVID") from New York alone and the numbers would look much more reasonable.

Other Democrat run states imposed similar actions that caused more deaths and infections, not to mention there are still some states on modified lockdowns causing, who knows what else (alcoholism, domestic violence, and other grotesque things), than was necessary.

Who are voting these people in? It's time for them to go because it's apparent that they are lacking in some serious leadership and decision-making skills.

To me, it just seems all too perfect to overreact this close to November. However, the scare tactic really only worked towards most Democrat-leaning voters, who may not show up at the polls until it's okay to go outside.

One  thing I  noticed about the how the virus changed the world is that our leaders around the world are: 1. power hungry 2. they are incompetent leaders of using prudent judgement during times of a major crises 3. they think their citizens are all retarded and don't know what is best for them and now for number 4. I'm pissed at all leaders who want to take away what little privileges we still have
 

chris

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OH for those who are interested today we finally got our japanese stimulus money so for all those who are waiting thinking its not coming be patient ( This coming from me who has 0 patients :ROFLMAO:) and again i feel like i just got my check for being a lab rat. Thankyou money for being involved in the worldwide virus experiment. I am now waiting for the online How did we do survey :ROFLMAO:
 

island cyclist

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OH for those who are interested today we finally got our japanese stimulus money so for all those who are waiting thinking its not coming be patient ( This coming from me who has 0 patients :ROFLMAO:) and again i feel like i just got my check for being a lab rat. Thankyou money for being involved in the worldwide virus experiment. I am now waiting for the online How did we do survey :ROFLMAO:
Hey Chris, I guess you had to fill out some paper work? I didn't do anything, do you think I'll get it?
No patients, hey! You and Yoko wouldn't get along, well, maybe you would. She too has 0 patients with me.
 

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